ginmar ([info]ginmar) wrote,
@ 2006-10-11 08:45:00
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How nice you have something else you can sell
So, Amp of Alas has sold his domain to porn sites. He won't allow comments, didn't tell anybody about this, and won't respond. Only after [info]womanspace outed him did it really dawn on people how how shitty it was for a so-called feminist man who's gotten a lot of attention just for being a guy to sell out to pornographers. [info]laurelin points out that he had other options; giving a shit about women, for instance, but that would require he oppose the male trolls whose company he evidently finds preferable to that of uncivil feminists.

Well, shit.


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[info]kimberly_t
2006-10-11 02:35 pm UTC (link)
What a wankin' arsehole!

Well, at least his true colors have shown at last. I hadn't visited that site much at all lately, but I'll be avoiding that place like the plague in the future.

At least I don't have any LJ posts referring to that site that I can recall. I'd be going back and editing to destroy the links if I did.

Perhaps his porn partners won't stay pleased with the deal for long. I'm sincerely hoping that when the word gets out among online feminists that he's just another male privilege wanker trying to use feminism for his own gain, traffic to his site drops drastically from their no longer visiting and feminist-bashers stop coming because there's no one there to bash anymore, and the porn advertisers get no revenue from his selling out to them.

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[info]kimberly_t
2006-10-11 02:38 pm UTC (link)
BTW, the womansspace link came out funny. They don't have an LJ account by that name.

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(no subject) - [info]ginmar, 2006-10-11 04:39 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]mrsveteran, 2006-10-11 05:36 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]rowancrisp
2006-10-11 03:06 pm UTC (link)
Jesus Farking Christ.

I stopped going there a while back - Robert and his ilk turned me off the site - but it's nice to see that truth will out, eh? :(

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[info]ginmar
2006-10-11 03:09 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, pretty much. Men matter more to him in reality.

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(no subject) - [info]rowancrisp, 2006-10-11 03:13 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]twinsmomwhoas, 2006-10-13 12:46 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]stardragonca, 2006-10-11 07:13 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]stardragonca, 2006-10-11 07:16 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]mirandaflynn
2006-10-11 03:17 pm UTC (link)
Ampersand is a complete tool. In other news, the sun rose in the East today.

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[info]ginmar
2006-10-11 03:25 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, but he's such a sneaky little jerk about it.

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(no subject) - [info]stardragonca, 2006-10-11 07:20 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]stardragonca
2006-10-11 07:17 pm UTC (link)
Napoleon has escaped from Elba.

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(Anonymous)
2006-10-11 03:37 pm UTC (link)
Well that's just wonderful, Alas is also a destination link for fat advocacy groups too and makes submissions to Big Fat Carnivals. Great, folks from places like Big Fat Blog will be contributing traffic to an industry that either treats fat people as invisible or a fetish. I'm sure any arguments I make there will fall on deaf ears, though if there are hardcore porn ads right on the blog we might be able to lable all future links as NSFW.

Yip. Ee.

~Godless Heathen

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[info]ginmar
2006-10-11 03:42 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, adn I like how he didn't try anything but selling out women.

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(no subject) - [info]stardragonca, 2006-10-11 07:22 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]mediumdave
2006-10-11 03:57 pm UTC (link)
Alas, I am unsurprised.

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[info]ginmar
2006-10-11 04:40 pm UTC (link)
I wish I could have that quality. I keep getting unpleasantly surprised because I have some standards, and it just keeps tripping me up every damned time.

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(no subject) - [info]mediumdave, 2006-10-11 07:39 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]sammywol
2006-10-11 04:27 pm UTC (link)
Kind of proves the point about him only being a 'so-called' feminist man though doesn't it? Rather neatly and thoroughly. Asshat.

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[info]delphyne_
2006-10-11 05:31 pm UTC (link)
I see that he has finally made a post about this in order to respond to ......Hugo. All the women who are outraged about this are being ignored. No surprises there of course.

I'd like to know exactly how much money he was paid. What is the going rate for selling out women these days?

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[info]secret_x_stars
2006-10-11 05:45 pm UTC (link)
I see that he has finally made a post about this in order to respond to ......Hugo.

Oh, fucking Christ, Amp. I stopped visiting his site because he let the male AFT roam free. What a fucking dolt.

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(no subject) - [info]twinsmomwhoas, 2006-10-13 12:50 am UTC (Expand)
i noticed the irony of that too
[info]txfeminist
2006-10-13 04:07 pm UTC (link)
When he finally responded because HUGO said something -- well -- that was just the last straw. That completely , and totally, pissed me off.

Here's ten or more women's blogs addressing it and WHO does he talk to? Fucking Hugo Schwyzer, of "I am Buddies with Glenn Sacks Fame"

I delinked from Alas yesterday, hope the door don't hit him on the ass on the way out.

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Re: i noticed the irony of that too - [info]ginmar, 2006-10-13 04:13 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]lavendertook
2006-10-11 06:45 pm UTC (link)
How he acted in the dispute he had with you sometime last year made it clear to me I didn't want anything to do with his site or pick up the LJ rss feed to it. He's written some good pieces--some of his theory is very good, but his practice stinks, and that's the bottom line to me. And this is in keeping with what I saw then.

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[info]ginmar
2006-10-11 06:48 pm UTC (link)
You know, I think I'm just not cynical enough.

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(no subject) - [info]lavendertook, 2006-10-11 07:01 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]ginmar, 2006-10-11 07:07 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]lavendertook, 2006-10-11 07:26 pm UTC (Expand)
That actually makes - [info]bellatrys, 2006-10-11 08:17 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: That actually makes - [info]lavendertook, 2006-10-11 08:31 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: That actually makes - [info]neintales, 2006-10-11 10:29 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]azzy23
2006-10-11 07:23 pm UTC (link)
sold to porn sites... like... to make his site a porno site? Or just to generate revenues by linking to them?

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[info]caprinus
2006-10-11 07:34 pm UTC (link)
Wow, that's beyond lame. I hope he likes his 30 silver coins. This makes no sense, not on an economic, technological, political or any other level. It. makes. no. sense! Dude, you're an idiot and a bloodsucking louse!

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[info]flewellyn
2006-10-11 08:38 pm UTC (link)
There are so many other ways he could have raised money. SO many other groups he could have sold the domain to.

It's telling that this is the option he went with.

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You asked for comments...
[info]dawnwolf
2006-10-11 08:45 pm UTC (link)
I don't know the man or the site in question, so I can't comment on that chunk of discussion.

However, I am a feminist, and I have no problem with porn as long as everyone involved is into it willingly. I understand that as a culture we're a long way from that situation; that women (and perhaps some men, too) get into the industry because they feel they have no other options, and that others are forced into it. I would not deal with those situations by banning porn, but rather by expanding women's access to education and economic options and increasing penalties for and enforcement of laws that punish men for coercing or raping women.

Men look at me sexually; I look at them (as well as women I find attractive) sexually as well. Men - or women, but we all know that's well over a 99 to 1 ratio - who insist on treating me only as "something" sexual don't enjoy my company, or even my notice, for long. Yes, there's a great deal of porn out there that plays on sex-negative, female-negative images. But 99% of everything is crap, and I'm not one for burning books or never accessing the Internet or never seeing a film for that reason.

So my question is, do you have an issue with this particular self-styled feminist man linking to porn sites from his site because it's one of many instances that show him to be a talker rather than a walker, or for this reason alone?

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Re: You asked for comments... - [info]ginmar, 2006-10-11 08:47 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: You asked for comments... - [info]stardragonca, 2006-10-11 09:11 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: You asked for comments... - [info]ginmar, 2006-10-11 08:48 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: You asked for comments... - (Anonymous), 2006-10-11 09:14 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]ginmar, 2006-10-11 09:28 pm UTC (Expand)
the overwhelmingly negative images of young black men in the media as pimps and hoods - [info]stardragonca, 2006-10-11 09:40 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: You asked for comments... - [info]baileyflower, 2006-10-12 12:23 am UTC (Expand)

[info]diachrony
2006-10-11 09:22 pm UTC (link)
So, Amp of Alas has sold his domain to porn sites.
WHAT??!!!

Wha-wha-what?!?!

I haven't been there in awhile, but ...

I'm just ... dude. WTF. o.O

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(no subject) - [info]diachrony, 2006-10-11 09:57 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]sister_sheena
2006-10-11 11:00 pm UTC (link)
ginmar, those of us with long memories of the Ms boards are just fainting from unsurprise. IIRC (and Miranda can probably back me up on this one), Ampersand made his pro-porn stance clear in some very heated debates there.

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(no subject) - [info]ginmar, 2006-10-11 11:02 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]psyck
2006-10-12 02:49 am UTC (link)
I only went to his blog (although, almost everytime I visited it was a "guest" *female* blogger) a few times. After I saw how infested it was with anti-feminists and men who thought they "got it" I never went back. Why read feminist blogs by men when there are better ones by women? (Like this one, *cough*)

He had more options than sell it to pornography reviewers. Maybe he would not have made as much money, but at least his feminist readers wouldn't have been stabbed in the back like this.

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(no subject) - [info]ginmar, 2006-10-12 03:02 am UTC (Expand)

[info]scott_lynch
2006-10-12 05:34 am UTC (link)
Jesus. I never paid much attention to the blog in question, but surfing around checking out the fallout, I'm dropping my jaw at the number of people who are like, "Oh, my, what a gaffe!" rather than "What a fuck-you!" Like it's just a little itty bitty faux pas. Improperly addressed the wedding invitations, overdressed for a casual party, sold out to internet factory-farm porn schluppers... oopsies!

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(no subject) - [info]ginmar, 2006-10-12 12:13 pm UTC (Expand)
also did you notice the defenders - [info]bellatrys, 2006-10-12 06:25 pm UTC (Expand)
if you set up as a public figure,etc. - [info]stardragonca, 2006-10-12 11:48 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]stardragonca, 2006-10-12 11:43 pm UTC (Expand)

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