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He was 22, he said he was going to slaughter the most popular girls on campus in a sorority, and everybody's saying he's mentally ill...... Because misogyny and thinking girls are prizes is completely unheard-of in this culture.

I've been watching CNN for an hour now. Not one word about how the guy wanted revenge on girls who he blamed for his virginity.

At Gawker, where justifying creepshots and lack of privacy for women is practically a bannerhead attribute, the dudes are already opining about everything but MRA-hood and entitlement. "I'm the perfect guy, I'm everything you want....."

Shockingly enough, women are not apt to fuck a guy who feels like women are pussy dispensers----who owe him. Bitchez, you know? They exist only to fuck dudes, yet they wouldn't fuck him. Obviously the problem is them.

'I'm going to enter the hottest sorority house of UCSB and I will slaughter every single spoilt, stuck-up, blonde s**t that I see inside there. All those girls that I've desired so much, they would've all rejected me and looked down on me as an inferior man if I ever made a sexual advance towards them,' he says.
Rodger's Twitter account has only two tweets, posted on April 19 and 20.
'Why are girls sexually attracted to obnoxious, brutish men instead of sophisticated gentlemen such as myself? #girls #perverted #sex #unfair,' reads the first.
'Why do girls hate me so much?'


Read that again. You're stuck up if you're good looking. You're stuck up if you don't fuck him. You're stuck up if you don't date him. Best of all, you're a slut if you don't fuck him. Yes, ladies, you missed your shot at this douchebag, who at the age of 22 achieved a level of douchebaggery it usually takes less arrogant assholes at least three or four decades to achieve.

Anybody here thinking Marc Lepine? They hold a day of remembrance in Canada over his attack on women; here, they're already trying to make the misogynist angle disappear.

Gawker is a website that featured the story of Creepshots, the subreddit where a fiftysomething programmer boasted that he personally went over all the shots submitted to make sure they were all underage. There was outrage when he was outed, because creeping on underaged girls is apparently something that dudes are entitled to under the First Amendment. Sucks to be you, bitchez. One contributor to Creepshots was a teacher, who was subsequently fired. Creepshots went underground for a while, but is now back as a "fashion" subreddit, but the pretense is tissue thin; helpfully, the new "fashion" subreddit links to the creepshots archive, so dudes who get off on lack of consent can have access to their spank bank material.

The whole point of creepshots is not privacy law. People were bewildered over it, pointing to lots of free porn and wondering why these guys would stalk women to get fairly tame shots, but they missed one essential bit: the whole point of creepshots was lack of consent. That's what made it attractive to these guys. Notice how this dude seemed to think if he had the right items on his resume----showered now and then, had a BMW, good-looking------he was supposed to somehow get pussy. Where was all the pussy he was supposed to be getting? He never questioned this. He just demanded to know why he wasn't getting any when other less-qualified dudes were. It was not his problem-----it was the fault of women.

He sounds eerily like George Sodini, who went to a health club and killed three women with a penis substitute after feeling rejected his whole life. These guys seem to think that women are one step up from something you buy in a pet store, in that women get to decide which guy to get 'bought' by, but still, some dude out there is entitled to you, and you better give him what he wants.

He's like the guys I've run into my whole life, the guys who think that if they shower now and then, don't display their boxers, and shower now and then they're somehow supposed to be rewarded with you. Being nice, as a baseline, doesn't exist for women. That's for human beings. You're a prize----or, well, you don't exist. (Just watch unsocialized losers whine about how they can't get laid sometime on Kotaku.....when what they mean is, they can't get laid by supermodels, because the ordinary girls who might like them just aren't good enough.)

There's something in our society that makes the twenties a deeply misogynist time period in a lot of peoples' lives, both genders. Young men seem to have profound hatred and contempt for women....and too many young women decide that they're not like those silly bitches. They're special. Coincidentally, a recent study identified most MRAs as white (something on the order of 90%), Libertarian, atheist, and devoted to legalizing weed. We teach boys to hate women, and we teach girls that survival means making sure that some other woman gets hated. We teach boys to blame it on girls and we teach girls that hateful men are just tough nuts to crack. We teach boys that hating women is perfectly reasonable. What's shocking isn't that this type of thing happens; it's just shocking that it doesn't happen more often, though when you look at how many of these shooters aim for or blame it all on women, and how often that gets softened till it's invisible, well......

This guy hated women because he grew up understanding that women owed him. When they didn't put out like they were supposed to....what's a guy to do?

How much do you want to bet that all of the victims are female? Plus the shooter?

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tammypierce
May. 24th, 2014 03:56 pm (UTC)
Well, Dad's in the movie business--no wonder he grew up thinking he was entitled and girls would come crawling.

I watched his raison d'etre, though it gave me both the crawls and the rage. It sounds like he's living his own wargame, doesn't it? He makes no mention of his exit strategy. He believes that once he accomplishes his original goal--and it never occurs to him that might be difficult; he's so into his own fantasy--he'll be able to walk down the street killing. And in the end he doesn't even get out of his penis (car) and go into the sorority.

Level two is that creepy little manufactured laugh. The first time he uttered that around me, I'd be gone. But that laugh and its frequency makes it also seem like he believes this is his movie, his version of one of Charles Bronson's Death Wish movies.

He's mentally ill in that he's a sociopath. That still doesn't mean he's entitled to a harem. And like so many guys, I'll bet he never looked beyond the gorgeous girls, because the entitlement addicts never do. They think they're entitled to the best, and ordinary women aren't worth consideration.

No matter how desperate I was at that age, I would have turned this creeper away, too. Bad cess to those who defend him and place the onus on women. We have our self preservation instincts, and there's no law on the books (now that they're doing away with the "there is no rape in marriage" laws) that says we have to accommodate someone who sets off all of our alarms.
ginmar
May. 24th, 2014 04:14 pm (UTC)
These guys always believe that it's shallow bitches who find his height (5'9") or something like that offputting when it's his belief that they're that shallow that does it. Guys like this give off asshole vibes from thirty paces, against the wind.

He's not sick; he's just at the far end of the scale in a culture that calls women "slut" when they mean, "Slept with a dude who wasn't me."
glinda_w
May. 24th, 2014 04:55 pm (UTC)
Guys like this give off asshole vibes from thirty paces, against the wind.

Heh. I'm 5'9; I've dated guys shorter than I am, taller than I am, my height; overly thin, average weight, overweight. What I fall for, every time, is the mind.
glinda_w
May. 24th, 2014 04:52 pm (UTC)
No matter how desperate I was at that age, I would have turned this creeper away, too. Bad cess to those who defend him and place the onus on women.

This. This this this. (And I can't even think about watching it. Kind of along the lines of not watching TV news, etc., I do not need those visuals in my brain.)
realinterrobang
May. 24th, 2014 04:16 pm (UTC)
Yeah, this guy is George Sodini all over again. It's a fucking shame I even have to type that, because it shouldn't happen once, let alone over and over and over again. And yeah, he does seem to be the very model of the entitled little sociopath.
ginmar
May. 24th, 2014 04:34 pm (UTC)
And even though the dude blatantly blamed his murderous spree on women, the press is still not commenting on it. Commenters picked up on it from the get go, though, because who hasn't had a too-close encounter with MRAs? Or Nice Guys?
candika
May. 24th, 2014 04:40 pm (UTC)
Using the "he's mentally ill" gambit just let's arseholes like this off the hook. He'd created some kind of melodramatic fantasy world where he was "entitled" to sex and to relationships if he ticked off the right boxes, like a game of bingo. I'd have found him funny if he hadn't used it as an excuse to go on a rampage and kill innocent people. And no, killing himself doesn't absolve him or turn him into some kind of misunderstood, tragic figure. He's a mass murderer. That's all.
amethyst_hunter
May. 25th, 2014 04:08 am (UTC)
Chickenshit little coward killed himself so he wouldn't have to own up to what he'd done. Typical Whiny Bitter Entitled White Spoiled Brat Guy.
vschanoes
May. 24th, 2014 05:19 pm (UTC)
Also, women suffer from mental illnesses, but when was the last time a woman pulled some shit like this and blamed it on all the hot dudes who wouldn't give her the time of day?

It's not mental illness. It's misogyny.

You know, these women didn't even turn him down--he says they would have (and they probably would've, because he's a murderous misogynist). All they did was exist in the world, being female and attractive to a man.
rikibeth
May. 25th, 2014 01:03 am (UTC)
There have been all of two mass shootings by women that I know of in the past thirty-five years or more, and neither one claimed resentment of men for rejecting her as the reason. Of course, one has never provided a reason beyond "I don't like Mondays."
amethyst_hunter
May. 25th, 2014 04:10 am (UTC)
The only mass killing I can recall right now that was done by a woman happened more than 25 years ago, in the Winnetka suburb. A woman named Lorie Dann went into a school and shot/stabbed a bunch of people - and she WAS mentally ill.
rikibeth
May. 25th, 2014 11:01 am (UTC)
Yup, that's the other one besides the "I Don't Like Mondays" incident, which was in California;
greeneyedkzin
May. 24th, 2014 07:21 pm (UTC)
This guy was a real piece of work. Kill the pussy dispensers and kill the guys to whom they may or may not have dispensed, when he, son of Movie AD and his dispenser (I wonder how he felt about Mom) wasn't getting any.

I remember LePine. Sure, they want to bury it under the rug. My belief is that every time people tell you "that's not so, you're overreacting, it isn't true," it almost definitely is. And if it involes women, it CERTAINLY is.

Just finished reading Rebecca Solnit's MEN EXPLAIN THINGS TO ME. You probably have known for years longer than I that she invented the term mansplaining.

How're they going to mansplain this?

SOB shot the wrong person last.
tripleransom
May. 24th, 2014 11:11 pm (UTC)
"SOB shot the wrong person last." THIS.

Considering the kinds of guys I see girls settle for every day, this dude, who was rich, reasonably good-looking, and (kinda sorta) famous, must have been a genuine asshole if he couldn't get a girl. SO OF COURSE IT HAD TO BE ALL HER FAULT, right?
ginmar
May. 24th, 2014 11:26 pm (UTC)
Well, duh. And they just took three bodies from his flat.
glinda_w
May. 25th, 2014 04:10 am (UTC)
Apparently three male bodies, stabbed to death. So... Jesus. *No one* was safe from him. Something like 400 rounds of ammo found in his car?

(I'm trying to limit my news-reading about this. Gah.)

And I'm *always* saying, every time some bastard like this kills people, then himself, that he should've just killed himself first. Saved the world a lot of grief.
amethyst_hunter
May. 25th, 2014 04:05 am (UTC)
I'm glad this cowardly little piece of shit died a virgin. His utter contempt for women is sickening.
glinda_w
May. 25th, 2014 04:42 am (UTC)
Complete and total contempt for women. Seasoned with a certain amount for everyone else who didn't give him what he wanted, didn't validate everything he said, as well.

Total entitlement attitude; total belief that everything was caused by someone else, that others were always to blame. No responsibility for his own actions or circumstances.

Gah. I can't even...

lucretiasheart
May. 25th, 2014 05:31 am (UTC)
Yes. Everything you said here-- just YEAH I agree.
lucretiasheart
May. 25th, 2014 02:03 pm (UTC)
Slate posted an article on these issues-- so, at least someone pointed out the obvious you have.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/05/24/elliot_rodger_the_pick_up_artist_community_s_predictable_horrible_response.html
ginmar
May. 25th, 2014 03:47 pm (UTC)
I see the "manosphere" is closing ranks and blaming bitches. Over at Skepchick I saw one asshole who claimed that the shooting couldn't be about misogyny because four of the guy's six victims were male-------never mind that he blamed "stuck up blondes" for his celibacy and raged that he intended to punish them for it.
greeneyedkzin
May. 25th, 2014 03:18 pm (UTC)
Apparently, he pondered over whether to kill his very successful father. And the parents knew something was wrong, but the cops let it slide.

Aside from the deaths (a damnably big "aside from"), what's getting me is the shock, SHOCK I'm picking up.

WTF did they THINK Rape Culture meant? If I needed more proof that the mainstream is just not paying attention, there it is.
ginmar
May. 25th, 2014 03:49 pm (UTC)
Rape culture is just something feminazis dreamed up so they can fuck with men, duh. In all this writing, the fucker rages that bitches owe him pussy. He's the victim, dammit!
greeneyedkzin
May. 25th, 2014 04:11 pm (UTC)
I'm beginning to see poor pitiful him.

And I saw some posts on various misogynist boards about pickup artists and how the guy wasn't an alpha, but a beta, and the homophobic slur "twink."

Rape Culture is absolutely Hobbesian: everyone turns on everyone else if they can. Doesn't matter if it's decent, for damn sure. And it doesn't seem to matter if it's safe. It's like they've got a death wish.

When these creatures aren't trying to fuck up women, they're trying to fuck up men.

Besides, WTF is so awful about being a virgin into one's 20s? It's no one's business and no sex is better than bad sex...IMGDO, but I waited a long time.

You know, Gin, I'm classic second wave. Yet, at the same time, what some kinds of men are doing to everyone really needs to be changed too.
glinda_w
May. 25th, 2014 10:04 pm (UTC)
Besides, WTF is so awful about being a virgin into one's 20s? It's no one's business and no sex is better than bad sex...IMGDO, but I waited a long time.

Yeah, and what's this he said about college supposed to be all fun and parties and sexytimes? College is for learning, and forming friendships, and... gah. Showing my age, aren't I?

(I'm not sure what wave I am, at this point. Probably none of them, because I've got fault to find with just about every so-called version of feminism there is. *very wry*)
greeneyedkzin
May. 25th, 2014 10:56 pm (UTC)
This alleged killer doesn't seem to have gotten much out of a very sporadic education. God knows, not ethics.

I suspected he creeped people out.

What kind of feminist am I? Not as good a one as I might be, but demographically, I'm classic Second Wave from an elite women's college -- precisely one of the sorts that people condemn for its limitations. The one good thing I -will- say about Second Wave, aside from its survival value, is that it tended to have a formal training background from which learning more became an addition.

There are worse things to own up to.
witch_wolf
May. 25th, 2014 10:41 pm (UTC)
Creepy
It's not a Hate law according to the people on CNN because you can't hate a gender.

This guy supposedly on a lot of different MRA sites that encouraged him.

Grrrr
ginmar
May. 25th, 2014 11:24 pm (UTC)
Re: Creepy
Not "supposedly". Definitely.
lianneb
May. 26th, 2014 11:53 am (UTC)
I don't really see a connection to Mark Lepine. This guy was angry because girls wouldn't date him. Lepine went into a school and killed women who were in the program he flunked out of, because clearly those girls stole his chance to be an engineer. Sexism in both cases, but completely different types of sexism.
ginmar
May. 26th, 2014 03:40 pm (UTC)
Really? Lepine killed women because he felt he had more of a right to their education than they----as women-----did. This guy murdered women because he felt entitled to their very bodies. Because they owed him pussy. Either way, they had something each wanted, and they felt unfairly deprived.
kittenmommy
May. 27th, 2014 09:11 pm (UTC)

Have you seen this? I was shocked, shocked I tell you!
ginmar
May. 27th, 2014 09:35 pm (UTC)
They can whine all the way to the bank. Nothing she says is inaccurate.
kittenmommy
May. 28th, 2014 12:00 am (UTC)

I know! And their movies are appallingly awful.
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