ginmar ([info]ginmar) wrote,
@ 2008-07-21 14:27:00
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This is for MRAs who think it's okay to exploit Russian women by buying them
Every year, 14,000 Russian women die at the hands of a family member. And American men offer a way out just by not beating them, a standard that American women are no longer willing to accept.


ell, an NPR report that aired this morning shows a sobering reality of Russian womanhood that's so far from Plastinina and her rancid materialism as to be rendered absurd. Gregory Feifer reports from Moscow that 14,000 women die each year in Russia at the hands of their male partners. What's more: wife beating is not considered a crime, and 50% of women in a recent survey say they have been physically abused by their spouses. "The real number of victims is impossible to count as [domestic violence] is seen as a private matter, not to be aired in public," Feifer said. In fact, Feifer notes that there is an old proverb that many Russian women seem to have internalized: "If he beats you, he loves you."

American men who to Russia typically complain about how uppity American women are, what with their demanding rights above and beyond 'not getting beaten.' And to add to the awfulness, these same women won't even kiss American male ass, do all the housework, and pump out baby after baby. They expect men to do half of that stuff, despite they're being, you know, men---the pinnacle of creation, the center of the universe, the superior gender. So, in order to find non-beating men, they go to a country where half the women have been harmed by domestic violence, where almost five times as many women are murdered by men as in America, and offer themselves to women who want to get away from all that.

"The Russian Federation does not have a specific law on violence in the family," and NPR reports that for the police to intervene in a domestic violence situation, the injury has to be so grave as to "prevent you from work for two weeks."

Number of women's shelters in Moscow: 0. Number of beds in the nearest women's shelter to Moscow: 7. Because housing is so expensive in Russia, many women, like one of the women interviewed by NPR, have to go back to living with their murderous ex-husbands because they can't afford to go anywhere else. Amnesty International tells almost the identical story, one of a woman named "Anna."

In December 2003, after her husband had threatened to set her on fire, Anna finally decided to file for a divorce. Incensed at her action, her husband destroyed the family’s possessions, including dishes and clothes. In March 2004, a week after the couple had been officially divorced, she returned with her older son to the flat, as she had nowhere else to go. Her ex-husband told her that he did not recognize the divorce and that he was going to have sex with her. During the incurring argument he doused her with inflammable liquid and tried to set her alight. While Anna had witnesses who could confirm what had happened, the police told her they could not do anything, because he "had not committed a crime". According to Anna, the police did not pay attention to the fact that he had a lighter nor did they check her coat which was soaked in the liquid.


One caveat: Russia has a larger population than the United States. It is, however, the center for the trafficking of women and girls. American men just practice a slightly more acceptable form of trafficking.

I wonder if the MRAs will dare envy those seven beds. After all, Russian men get beaten, too. Supposedly. Based on this story, I'd have to say they deserved it. If the Russian police are as shitty as they seem---when I stayed there, they settled cases on the street by taking bribes-----certainly a lot of women are getting murdered and attacked without being counted. With a fifty percent abuse rate, that means Russian children have little to no chance of not growing up seeing some woman being beaten or otherwise attacked. That means Russian women grow up knowing their fate. That means American men find easy pickings without having to alter their behavior.

These guys frequently express contempt or hatred with uppity American women, wanting someone subservient, docile, desperate, and bought. Some of these marriages turn abusive. There's usually a substantial age and attractiveness gap. Sixty year old men with potbellies and combovers score twentysomething Russian women pretty enough to be models.

I remember when I was in Martinique with a group of other Americans, all of whom were horrified at the overt and horrifying racism on the island. They all congratulated themselves on how advanced they were; not much. Because there's just some standards that one should not slip below, and promoting a standard where women should be grateful just to not get beaten or murdered is far below that one.



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[info]bibliofilen
2008-07-21 09:50 pm UTC (link)
If you don't mind getting really depressed I can recommend the film Lilja Forever by Lukas Moodysson. I'd also like to point out that they have shown that women from Thailand who marry Swedish men will want the same equality as Swedish women once they see that this is the norm. Men who marry Russian or Thailandese women to gain a subservient slave will often find themselves divorced once they see what is normal and expected behaviour here. It isn't as if women naturally LIKES doing all the thankless dirty work for someone else.

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[info]mindstalk
2008-07-22 07:35 pm UTC (link)
Russia's population is actually just 141 million, to our 301 m. The USSR might have had more people, but...

So that makes the "women killed by family" rate 1 in 10,000, higher than the total US murder rate.

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[info]ginmar
2008-07-22 07:49 pm UTC (link)
Jeez, I could have sworn it was the other way around. That makes it even worse.

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(Anonymous)
2008-07-23 03:38 am UTC (link)
I've watch a lot of forensic shows on TV, and there is always a lot of wife-murdered-by-husband murder cases profiled. A lot of these murders are American men murdering their foreign born wives. It's the same story in every case. Foreign wife desperate to leave a life of poverty and abuse from her fellow countrymen-marries an American man who promises a better life- and ends up murdered by said American husband because he's just as bad as what she left at home. A lot of time, these women were in the process of leaving their American husbands when they were murdered. Some of these murders happened in front of their kids. In some cases, the women weren't murdered, but they lost custody of their kids to these American assholes. It's really sad.

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[info]ginmar
2008-07-23 12:56 pm UTC (link)
Yes, it is. And the MRAs are absolutely outraged about the idea that a man's criminal history should be disclosed to any woman he attempts to lure to this country.

It's a classic environment for abuse.

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(Anonymous)
2008-07-24 06:51 am UTC (link)
It doesn't surprise me that MRAs are pissed off about something like that. I just got threatened with violence by an MRA on another website when he couldn't refute anything I said with logic (that thing they say we women don't have). If MRAs gets mad enough to threaten unknown women on the internet with violence because they don't have the brains God gave a goat, imagine what they would do to some foreign woman who decided she wasn't going to take their shit anymore. Fuckers! Imagine what those criminal histories reveal. God forbid, if these women are warned first before they come to this country. It's only common sense to want to know what you're getting into before you go to a foreign country and leave your entire culture and family behind. But I guess MRAs are pissed off because it makes it harder for them to abuse and exploit a woman. Like a kid who's denied candy.

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[info]ginmar
2008-07-24 06:54 am UTC (link)
To them it's a purchase. We're things. They feel they're the ones who should be doing the examining and demanding. How dare the thing actually think she's human?

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(Anonymous)
2008-07-24 07:11 am UTC (link)
Well, that's why MRAs are fed up with us "uppity American bitches" because we're demanding to be treated like human beings. When said foreign wife gets here, she demands the same thing that "uppity American bitch" wants, and that spoils the MRAs fun, I mean exploitation and abuse of a woman. Damn it all! We taint their possessions! How dare we keep them from geting laid! LOL

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[info]ginmar
2008-07-24 07:43 am UTC (link)
Basically, MRAs think women are whores, so if you're not getting child care or sex out of a woman, she shouldn't get your money. Nice, eh?

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