ginmar ([info]ginmar) wrote,
@ 2008-07-20 10:46:00
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If I hear this myth one more time, I'll actually do it
Gah, what is about twentysomething ignorami (*tm everybody) who don't do their research and who like to promote myths and shit? For fuck's sake, nobody ever burned a bra, but thanks for looking it up! It's like the myth of war protesters spitting on the soldiers returning from Viet Nam---never mind that soldiers were heavily involved in the anti-war movement and were seen as potential allies. And never mind how the conservatives of the day---sometimes conservative soldiers or ex soldiers themselves---regarded the rebellious soldiers and hippies as traitors. Hm, logically, then who do you think would be doing the spitting? Say it isn't so! Could the same wingnuts who lie about everything, be lying again?

The myth of the bra burning is like the myth of Hillary Clinton crying, or how PUMA members are all old bitter women with dried-up pussies who are just going to vote for McCain out of spite, or how the flap over the New Yorker cover was not manufactured by the Obama campaign to hide yet another sexist gaffe on Obama's part. "I'm just messing with you, man," indeed.

The bra burning myth has been debunked repeatedly, but it's interesting how and what people cling to it, isn't it? In fact, women protested the Miss America contest, which even then was the patriarchy in high heels and with buttloads of hairspray. They took a bunch of padded bras and tossed them in a garbage can, then crowned a sheep Miss America.

Hillary Clinton didn't cry, either. She got choked up talking about her country. Oh, wait, I forget. That just couldn't happen. She doesn't love her country. (Obama does, though!) According to common knowledge, she's a bitch from hell who cynically wants only power so she can eat babies and emasculate some more men by reminding them of castrating bitches who force their husbands to do dishes and then have affairs. Because they're so unattractive and evil, like Hillary.

So my proposal is this: Let's get together and burn some and make smores over the irritating motherfuckers. It'll probably require gas because they're made up of unnatural fibers. Hell, they might even melt. Still, at long last the myth will become true. Maybe we can all write Hillary and persuade her to cry. Making Obama give a fuck about women is going to be a much more difficult task, so I suggest we stick to the stuff we can set fire to. Any other things you want to toss on the bonfire?



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[info]kalimeg
2008-07-20 04:35 pm UTC (link)
Oh yeah, PUMA -- Put Up by Male Asshole...and a Rethug at that.

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[info]ginmar
2008-07-20 04:38 pm UTC (link)
Oh, thanks for playing! Care to call me a dried up old bitch, too? Or do you just want to ignore the whole point as well?

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[info]wildcherrygal
2008-07-20 07:55 pm UTC (link)
You forgot to call us racist and uneducated!

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[info]ceitnicangus
2008-07-20 04:40 pm UTC (link)
I hate the fact that I am told on some political blogs that if I don't vote for Obama the world will end. I will not have any rights, and and my mommy will take away my toys and send me to be without dinner. I am a bad bad human being.

And FISA means nothing, how could I bring that up, he had to vote for it because it was like the best compromise, and he has better judgment because he was against the war.

When I asked what promises did the democrats keep from 2006 -- they couldn't answer and called me names.

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[info]kyra_neko_rei
2008-07-20 04:46 pm UTC (link)
. . . that I don't vote for Obama the world will end. I will not have any rights

The Roe stick. I hope they burn nicely. :) (Although honestly I wish more that they were actual sticks, so if someone tried to use it on me I could take it away from them and beat them upside the head with it.)

When I asked what promises did the democrats keep from 2006 -- they couldn't answer and called me names.

Such the impressive argument, no?

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[info]valarltd
2008-07-20 04:57 pm UTC (link)
And John McCain will personally use your cell-phone's GPS and laser you from space.
It's how he relaxes of an evening after eating live kittens, you know.

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[info]kyra_neko_rei
2008-07-20 04:41 pm UTC (link)
"Ignorami:" The art of folding oneself so one can better get one's head up one's ass. A sub-discipline of origami, but the paper folds itself.

The high-heeled, pink, half-the-size-of-the-smallest-"male"-Autobot, metal barbie doll that's going around the internet as the design for the "female" Autobot Arcee in the next Transformers movie. Gods! Either do it right or stick to them having one gender. In fact, do it right and stick to them having one gender, and leave it to the earthlings to assign pronouns for convenience's sake. [/rant that would happily take hours]

In fact, all ethnocentrism.

(Hmmm, it'll need to be a really hot fire.)

Maybe we can burn the Roe stick? Or, hopefully, there's a new Roe stick born every time some fauxgressive whines "But Roe v. Wade, you have to vote for Obama or you can kiss your rights goodby and it'll be ALL YOUR FAULT!" That should make a nice bonfire.

Yay. Eleven forty in the morning and we're already to the "let's set things on fire" stage. Usually that waits till around late afternoon for me. :)

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[info]ginmar
2008-07-20 04:45 pm UTC (link)
I like the Roe stick. Let's write Roe on a hockey stick and burn it.

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[info]valarltd
2008-07-20 05:02 pm UTC (link)
It's never too early to set things on fire.

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(no subject) - [info]kyra_neko_rei, 2008-07-20 06:47 pm UTC (Expand)
. . . are you sure?
(Anonymous)
2008-07-20 05:14 pm UTC (link)
I don't think this belongs in the same category as some of the other myths you mentioned. There are people who (at least claim to) have pictures from {an unnamed number of years ago when they were two}:
http://mistful.livejournal.com/110237.html

While the original event at which bra-burning was reported did not actually involve any (they just dumped them in trash cans), there have been a number of cases where people have burned bras over the years - as ironic statements, as feminist statements, and to sell products.

Nice newsweek article on the original non-event:
www.newsweek.com/id/69586

Modern pictures (google images search result - I'm not sure how to make the hyperlink work):
www.cbc.ca/.../2006/ 12/08/women-rallies.html

Keith M.

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Re: . . . are you sure?
[info]ginmar
2008-07-20 07:14 pm UTC (link)
The trope spread very wide and very fast. Sounds like that LJ er came after that event.

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[info]ciardhapagan
2008-07-20 06:09 pm UTC (link)
Thank you Gin. I've had that thought too- but then I think with the modern bras and all the synthetic materials they are made of- probably would release toxic fumes and contribute to greenhouse gases.;)

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[info]greeneyedkzin
2008-07-20 06:19 pm UTC (link)
I'm not burning my bras. I need my bras.

As for Obama? I suspect the 'bots will be used and cast aside, but i'm cynical about power, and I'm especially cynical about Harvard Law grads. I'm frankly praying that Michelle will persuade him into thinking more sensibly. Besides, he's got a daughter, which seems to drive -some- sense into the head of faux feminist males, even if it's "how can I preserve for MY kid (the hell with your kids) the privileges I'VE won?"

Summer fun: explaining my bad attitude to 'bots.

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[info]ginmar
2008-07-20 07:15 pm UTC (link)
He's got two daughters and he seems the sort to me to be like Dick Cheney---gays are teh ebol, except for my daughter.

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[info]ginmar
2008-07-20 07:16 pm UTC (link)
And I'm wondering how smug the Obamabots will be once he continues his march to the right.

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[info]nekosensei
2008-07-20 11:23 pm UTC (link)
Besides, good bras are expensive.

You're not going to see me burning bras any time soon.

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[info]journiey
2008-07-20 07:16 pm UTC (link)
Hell This Election Is A Big Ole Mess, And I'm At A Loss To Know WHO To Vote For.

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[info]wildcherrygal
2008-07-20 08:02 pm UTC (link)
Is this the part where I ride in and start talking about the Green Party?

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[info]stardragonca
2008-07-20 09:01 pm UTC (link)
George Takei. What harm could it do, and at least he stands for something.

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[info]gypsypet
2008-07-20 10:56 pm UTC (link)
I signed a petition a few weeks ago to get a third party candidate on the ballot here in SC. They got enough. That makes me happy. I very well might vote for them. Unfortunately I have the sneaking suspicion that it probably put me on a hippy voting mail list, which is going to go over well back home since I never bothered to change my address from my parents on my driver's license or voter registration (still live in same state). I'm already giggling inappropriately.

I'm just sort of watching the march to the right with an open jaw right now. I mean politics is politics and I knew he wasn't going to be Mr. Liberal forever, but... holy shit.

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[info]esme454
2008-07-20 07:36 pm UTC (link)
I love my bras (well, the current ones) way too much to burn them, and all my old ones (DDD-G) are committed to an artist friend convinced that she can turn them into hats.

How bout thongs? Can we burn thongs?

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(no subject) - [info]ginmar, 2008-07-20 07:45 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kyra_neko_rei, 2008-07-20 08:11 pm UTC (Expand)
OT, sorry...
[info]ladyfox7oaks
2008-07-20 08:05 pm UTC (link)
Gin? I... I'm confused.. You have such wonderful stories about the lovely people you met over in the Middle East, So I want to believe that they are good folks and all that.
Then I run across an article over at the bbc... and well- they suddenly seem like barbarians who never grew out of the prehistoric ages...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7516238.stm
Eight women and one man face death by stoning in Iran...

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[info]rabidsamfan
2008-07-21 01:05 am UTC (link)
Er... my cousin burned her bra and so did some of her friends. At school yet, and then they got in trouble for swearing at the principal when he put out the fire and were suspended for a week. I was ten, so it was 1968, Lakewood, Colorado, near the end of the school year. Don't know if it made the newspapers, but it sure made my grandma and my aunt mad. They were still fuming about it at Thanksgiving.

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[info]alleycatsphinx
2008-07-21 05:55 pm UTC (link)
internet pro tip - alt char for ™ is 0153

(make sure num-lock is on, hold down alt and type 0153 on the num pad, then let go for ™)

There should be a shorter code for it, but i learned 0153 and havn't ever dug up the other code, since I remember this and it works. Alt-3 is ♥

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[info]slythwolf
2008-07-21 09:18 pm UTC (link)
My mom thinks there were bras being burned. She mentioned it in the context of my wanting to see Mona Lisa Smile and her replying that she had "been through all that feminism stuff when she was my age".

Depressing, hey?

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