ginmar ([info]ginmar) wrote,
@ 2008-05-08 17:42:00
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K's been over a few times this week, but I finally got tired today and told her she was not going to be allowed to snap at me. I sent her home. If you don't repeat stuff a jillion times she just hears what she wants, but if you dare repeat something she yells. Bye; off you go. One day she cried on my shoulder after her mom yelled at her for doing something her grandmother had said was okay. The next day she brought her little brother over, which made me blanch because the brother already thinks it's cute if he misbehaves. He gets into everything. I don't want to take care of him and K just brought him over. She's been taking the rules more and more for granted, and I've been very cross with her. Argh. I've been reminding her for quite some time not to ask for anything without the word 'please' but there's some other manners lessons that need to be enforced. I'm going to have to be more of a hard ass, because just because she thinks of this place as a refuge from her family does not mean it's a refuge from rules and good manners. She thinks she can come in here, take food without asking, look cute, and I won't mind. She's smart enough to know better but it just doesn't seem to register.

Dealing with the girls has made me realize just how different the thinking processes of a child are and how wrong it is to judge most of them as adults. I'm not sure how much of K's behavior is deliberate or indifferent, but it's definitely due to her age and her bringing up. C makes the case clearer. She's very much the product of her upbringing and it shows. I'm still trying to break her of the notion that saying 'sorry' makes her continued flouting of my rules somehow acceptable. No, it just gets you sent home.

Jezebel actually got the cupboard open the other day, which scares me because she doesn't differentiate between cat food and food stuffs. I stocked up on staples and they're in the same kind of containers as her cat food, and she's not shy about knocking them over to see what's in them. Then again, she must be hiding her thumbs from me or something because she can open screw top containers. That's enough to make you break out into a cold sweat.



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[info]nimbrethil
2008-05-08 11:29 pm UTC (link)
[Jezebel] can open screw top containers. That's enough to make you break out into a cold sweat.

I was going to ask if you'd actually witnessed this, but then I realized, if you had, you wouldn't be posting on your blog because Jezzie would've done you in. Can't have any witnesses in the feline bid for world domination.

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[info]glinda_w
2008-05-08 11:57 pm UTC (link)
Well no, she still needs to keep gin around to *buy* the catfood, y'know?

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-08 11:58 pm UTC (link)
Oh, hell, next she'll learn how to type and if I'm lucky after that, they'll toss food into my cage now and then.

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[info]glinda_w
2008-05-09 12:22 am UTC (link)
Oh, I dunno, I think they like having a human around to harass... Annie certainly does...

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[info]puglette
2008-05-09 01:20 pm UTC (link)
Then she'll nab a credit/debit/etc card and just order her fix online...or fill out mortgage applications (again online) and use the refinancing to buy a ton of catfood, delivered in small and discrete increments.

In fact, I think Jezebel has tied Ginmar up, stuffed her in a closet, and is writing this entry HERSELF to throw off the suspicious like me!

Bad kitty! Get away from the computer and go untie Ginmar...

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[info]nimbrethil
2008-05-09 04:13 am UTC (link)
Dude. If she's capable of opening screw-top lids, figuring out how to buy her own food is only a matter of time!

Some day, housecats all over the world will decide that humans are obsolete. When that day finally comes....*shudders*

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-09 12:03 am UTC (link)
Like Jezebel's not smart enough to use the computer. Der.

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[info]xviragox
2008-05-08 11:31 pm UTC (link)
Are you sure you've got a cat there, and not an octopus?

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-09 12:03 am UTC (link)
You know what's worse? I left the one cupboard door unsecured and she oopzed her way through food containers till she got to where I store the cat food, opened it, and went to town.

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sounds like either
[info]dragonet2
2008-05-09 12:48 am UTC (link)
a hook and eye (obnoxious and ugly) or one of those baby latches where you open the cupboad a fraction of an inch, then stick your finger in and unhook it.

Badb (the World's Dumbest Cat(tm)) apparently has opposable thumbs, the house she grew up in had a drop ceiling in the basement and we ALWAYS had mouse problems. Until she got big enough to take interest and shin up the twin intake water pipes to the washing machine. She finished off that trouble (despite being dumb she knows how to catch mice, but I think that can be a species memory).

Fortunately none of our fur beasts think people food is anyway interesting, and their food is in a can with a clip-down lid.

Good luck!

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[info]viggorlijah
2008-05-09 01:24 am UTC (link)
There's a neat book Backtalk on dealing with obnoxious kids which has a simple technique that has worked on my lot. When they say (or make that face! the eye rolling!) something obnoxious or rude, you just say "That's backtalk. Apologise." And then repeat and repeat and repeat until they are forced to apologise politely - not that yeahwhateversorrydontmeanit sorry, but a polite real I'm sorry, and then to rephrase it politely.

It's not emotionally loaded and it just clearly labels what they're doing and has no room for argument. After the first week where every other word seems to be "Backtalk! Apologise.", it becomes an occasional thing.

The trick is to refuse the context, not the content of what they're saying. They can say 'I'm miserable and I hate you and you smell bad.' They just have to say it *politely*.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-09 01:25 am UTC (link)
Thanks!

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[info]actiasluna
2008-05-09 02:20 pm UTC (link)
ooh, I like this suggestion. My son's hitting puberty, and it's like he can't say two words without Attitude.

I usually tell him that it's disrespectful and that he can't talk to me until he loses the 'tude. But your suggestion is simpler.

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[info]idemandjustice
2008-05-09 02:47 am UTC (link)
We had to get child proof latches for our cabinets. It still doesn't stop CC from climbing into drawers, though.

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[info]ivyfree
2008-05-09 03:17 am UTC (link)
I could come over and move your cats around the house. It might confuse them. Maybe it'd slow them down.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-09 03:18 am UTC (link)
It's be worth just to see Molly's face.

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[info]shakatany
2008-05-09 02:50 pm UTC (link)
Maybe you can get Jezebel to use the treadmill like these 2 cats *g*

Shakatany

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[info]stardragonca
2008-05-09 03:50 pm UTC (link)
There are three great Mahamantras for dealing with Those Who Are Not
Old Enough To Vote.

Good For Me.

Good For You.

Okay,Fine.

"You're mean!" "Good for me. Go do the dishes."
"I hate this!" "Good for you.Go do the dishes."
"This stinks!" "Okay,fine.Go do the dishes."

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Completely OT
[info]tripleransom
2008-05-10 04:25 pm UTC (link)
Did you see that everyone's favorite Creepy Couple, Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar, have announced that they are expecting their 18th child?

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Re: Completely OT
[info]ginmar
2008-05-10 04:52 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I saw that. Jesus! They preach financial independence, but they rely on handouts and shit that they don't tell the people they give the seminars to.

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