ginmar ([info]ginmar) wrote,
@ 2008-05-06 13:29:00
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Self defense for women
This is what happens when women defend themselves. Women, aware of an earlier case where a woman was stabbed to death, defend themselves.

And here's a scorned man. Much like Tracey Roberson's husband, he found his wife cheating. He killed her and got eighteen months.

How exactly, does a five foot three, hundred pound woman have a confrontation with a man who's more than a foot taller than her and a hundred pounds heavier? Where are women in the self defense laws, anyway? Self defense appears to not apply to women at all. Good women, of course, don't act on their own behalf. They have men to do it for them, because a good, non-uppity woman is not an independent actor. A good woman has a guy to fight a duel for her. A good woman, of course, never finds herself in a dodgy situation because she's so good she stays at home.

Men, of course, are happy to act this way on behalf of women because of course this means that they get to prey on other mens' women. It's a good ole boys' agreement, and it works for everyone with penis. Men get to control some women and attack others; women are kept in fear. Then the feminists came along and ruined the whole deal.

Anybody know how to set up a defense/appeal fund for Tracey Roberson? Anybody got more links?


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[info]blackbyrus
2008-05-07 07:01 am UTC (link)
Oh god... the contrast between the first two links just makes me want to scream and scream with rage. Punish the victims and free the murderers - what a sexist, screwed-up system we have going here.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-07 01:04 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, pretty much.

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[info]drooling_ferret
2008-05-07 03:14 pm UTC (link)
People who I took for relatively progressive keep screwing with me by suddenly blasting out this blatantly stupid / sexist shit, and its stories like these one that'll often be the catalyst for that.

I tried googling for word on an appeal, and didn't see anything, but even searching on a pretty tightly limited set of criteria the "justice is served" commentary is not just pervasive, it's nearly universal.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-07 04:00 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, well, that's because the MRAs are leaping all over this because OMG she said rape and she got convicted for it, while the hubbie walked free. It's like an MRA wet dream.

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[info]antinomic
2008-05-07 11:52 am UTC (link)
Sort of on topic? My wife recently took a self defense class. So I said, let's not hurt each other, but I'll try to grab you and you use what you were taught. Withing 30 seconds I won. The upside is, she has finally (I've tried for years) agreed to come to the range with me and learn to fire a pistol. 5'2'' + 9mm works out quite well.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-07 01:06 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, good luck with that. Did you even read the first fucking link? A bunch of women defended themselves and wound up in jail. Your wife very well might wind up murdered when the gun gets taken from her, thanks to the simplistic idea that individual women defending themselves will somehow work. It's useless until men hold other men accountable and stop telling women to respond to mens' violence.

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[info]stardragonca
2008-05-08 04:07 pm UTC (link)
Men need to respond to men's violence.
They can start by stopping being such Good Germans about it.

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