ginmar ([info]ginmar) wrote,
@ 2008-05-06 09:02:00
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Woman doesn't shoot guy, gets convicted of killing guy

Oh, how nice. They even used the loaded, classic phrase, 'cried rape', which I believe goes back to the Bible, and subtly twists the Bible's demand that a woman cry out when a man rapes her.


Long story short: man finds wife cheating on him, wife claims she's being raped, husband kills guy, then grand jury refuses to indict man for murder while convicting the wife 'for making her husband kill the man.'

That's funny. How many wives make their husbands do the dishes?

How abusive was this guy, anyway? He kills somebody and gets away with it, I'm finding it really hard to believe the wife didn't have good reason to be afraid for her life. Now the rest of us can be scared of this murdering asshole walking around instead of just her because the grand jury decided to teach the bitch a lesson. The way the hubbie killed the guy smacks of possession rather than protection. Who has a loaded gun at the ready like that? Who shoots four times when, frankly, one would do? The article says the daughter told the father that she thought her mom was outside--and that's enough to get the dude to come driving back home from miles away? What's between all the gaps? How often does this guy carry a gun? Was he abusive? How often? What lesson did hubby learn from this incident?

Not a good case to illustrate the idea that the bitches lie. I have to say, too, that the fact that Tracey Roberson is black no doubt played a role in the harsh grand jury decision, because sexism is so much more fun when you can pile more toppings onto it. It's sexism squared! Then there's the whole 'babymama/welfare queen' stereotype, along with the Tawana Brawley case---another case of a woman who was afraid of violence---and the Duke rape victim, who was actually victimized. Funny how those stereotypes obscure the reality that black women are something like ten times more likely than white women to get raped, and that's despite the fact that white women outnumber black women. No, the stereotype of black women is that they're both sexually voracious----which dates back to slave days, and neatly excuses white rape of black slaves----and lying bitches. You can't lose with that combination.

If Tracey Roberson had actually been raped and had shot the guy herself, she'd probably be in jail right now, whereas if she'd gotten a man to do it for her----her owner, for example, such as a husband, father, or even a son----both of them would still be free. Funny how women are still property to men and the idea of women tossing off those chains and acting on their own behalf is so horrifying that even men who were once regarded as property themselves have no trouble laying a claim to women around them. Other mens' property is fair game, though. Keeping men as property----bad. Keeping women as property----business as usual.

How come nobody's asking why she was so scared she accused her boyfriend of rape in front of her husband?

The belief that women lie, that women lie for the sheer joy of lying, and that a woman will maliciously lie to get another man killed is the reason nobody's asking why Tracey Roberson was so scared.

So a man is dead and the murderer is free, while a terrified woman faces jail for the rest of her life. Justice has been served.



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[info]cdozo
2008-05-06 02:40 pm UTC (link)
I had the same reaction when I heard about this. Why didn't the guy get in trouble?

Idiots.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-06 02:42 pm UTC (link)
He was just protecting his tarnished, perfidious possession. Why, that ungrateful bitch! I bet she doesn't even appreciate what he did for her!

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[info]stardragonca
2008-05-06 04:08 pm UTC (link)
Brain. can't. cope.

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[info]snowmentality
2008-05-06 04:13 pm UTC (link)
What the hell? He pulled the trigger! No matter what she said or didn't say, he still got his gun and pulled the trigger to kill someone else. She didn't tell him to kill anyone or assist him to do so.

This is so fucked up.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-06 04:13 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, but the justice system discrminates against men.!!!11

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[info]snowmentality
2008-05-06 04:35 pm UTC (link)
Totally.

And with stories like this one in my local paper, it's so clear that the justice system discriminates against fathers! That single mom is clearly living high on the hog with those child support payments!

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[info]theweaselking
2008-05-06 05:28 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, that link makes the facts a lot clearer than the other one.

I'm with you: There are two innocent victims here, and one criminal, and yet the criminal is the only one *not* in jail or the morgue.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-06 05:31 pm UTC (link)
And then people call me too angry. How many of these cases do not make the newspapers?

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[info]greeneyedkzin
2008-05-06 05:54 pm UTC (link)
It's not as if we're people, is it?

ALL these years. I swear, if I weren't so damn stubborn, I'd despair.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-06 05:58 pm UTC (link)
And there are excuses for the hubbie all over.

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[info]greeneyedkzin
2008-05-07 02:53 am UTC (link)
That is sheer funk with an N. Got to show docility, because if hubbie thinks you're about to be Spartacus...

It makes me sick, as if, for one brief shining moment, we had a chance at full personhood, but the economy turned down and "sorry, we can't afford it." What makes me even sicker is that some of those voices are women.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-07 01:10 pm UTC (link)
Look at my next post.

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[info]flewellyn
2008-05-06 06:29 pm UTC (link)
The meme going around the net seems to be "lying bitch got what she deserved! That'll show 'em all!"

Pardon me while I try to figure out how to aim a death ray at the Earth...

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[info]pbrim
2008-05-06 06:36 pm UTC (link)
This brings up some interesting questions. For example, originally the police arrested the husband for murder and never sought a warrant against the wife. But the grand jury refused to indite him and, on it's own, brought an indictment against her.

Also, if he was killing the guy to protect his wife, you would expect the 911 tape to pick up him saying things like, "Are you alright? Did he hurt you?" Instead, he is screaming at his wife, "Why you do me like that?" Sounds more like a pissed off husband than a protective one.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-06 06:39 pm UTC (link)
Well, it's obviously all the lying bitch's fault. What women like this are supposed to do is take the bullet themselves. Instead a valuable person---a man----got shot and killed and another man is going to have to maybe babysit his own kids for a while. The horror! And all of this happened because a lowly female---1/2 what a man is worth----got all uppity and cheated and scorned a man.

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[info]jeric_synergy
2008-05-06 07:12 pm UTC (link)
WTH? Shouldn't this at LEAST be manslaughter?

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-06 07:15 pm UTC (link)
The husband has a history of violence, came out shooting, and shot the boyfriend while the BF was fleeing. That's murder.

I don't care what this woman said to him, he had the gun in his hands and it was his decision to make.

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[info]drooling_ferret
2008-05-07 03:23 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I don't get that. When I worked security, lowly and really-there-for-show-and-insurance-don't-you-dare-ever-try-to-actually-"secure"-anything though I was, the training we got stressed, over all else, that we were not cops, and were not authorized to use force. They went beyond that to make the case to trainees that it was only ever legally acceptable to use ANY force in the event that someone's life / health was in immediate danger at that exact moment, and EVEN THEN it was dicey.

So the idea that you can revenge-kill a rapist by spraying bullets at the back fo a fleeing car, and THAT'S OKAY as long as he's still in your driveway because a man's home is his castle, or whatever stupid macho bullshit passes for jurisprudence in Texas nowadays...

The fact that you can then turn around and say it was your wife's fault that you did it, because OBVIOUSLY, upstanding vigilante killer of rapists that you are, YOU would NEVER revenge-kill a man who violated your perceived property rights over had sex with your wife with her consent....

WTF? I just... where do you begin?

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[info]drooling_ferret
2008-05-07 03:25 pm UTC (link)
Well, yeah, only without the messed up HTML.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-07 03:52 pm UTC (link)
And you know if the wife had defended herself from either a rapist or her husband she'd be going to jail for twenty years to life, while dipshits go on and on about how it's a crime of passion, blah blah blah. Men are so passionate, you know, but only when it comes to women and marriage and love and other than that they're totally calm, cool, and logical, so it's womens' fault if they blow their tops.

See how that works out? Men get everything but the blame.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-07 04:03 pm UTC (link)
You know, I have to say, too, that if the woman had been raped, wouldn't it be more traumatic to have a man die in front of her? Instead, the hubbie is just outraged about his property.

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[info]nimbrethil
2008-05-06 08:09 pm UTC (link)
How come nobody's asking why she was so scared she accused her boyfriend of rape in front of her husband?

This is the part that galls me. I'm sure that some women lie about rape. Positive of it, in fact. But what nobody ever thinks about is what pushes a woman to do that in the first place. When you consider how society regards a woman who eagerly "flaunts" her sexuality, and how quickly a woman is labeled a slut if she dares to eagerly partake of it, how can it not be that some women would claim to be raped rather than face the consequences of people finding out she gave it away free?

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-07 03:54 pm UTC (link)
What people don't mention is that women who do file false rape charges tend to never put up anybody for the role of rapist. In other words, they claim they were raped, but they can't identify the offender at all. Oh, yeah, and they're often seriously ill or in desperate straits, too.

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[info]mirandaflynn
2008-05-06 11:25 pm UTC (link)
He had his gun out as he approached the truck before the woman said anything. The way the story was first aired, it sounded like she was screaming for help, and he grabbed the gun to try and save her.

And who calls a house NINETEEN times?

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-06 11:31 pm UTC (link)
An obsessed abuser?

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Martha McCaughey
[info]yo_onions
2008-05-06 11:41 pm UTC (link)
Read Martha McCaughey on women as men's property, and black women as sexual wastrels. In Real Knockouts.

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[info]pofflewomp
2008-05-13 12:39 am UTC (link)
Christ. I have already spent my childhood hearing that the U.S. is a scary place full of fundamentalist Christians, warmongering governments, and misogynists. Now I am even more terrified of ever visiting the place. Not that Britain is great either, but bloody hell. What the hell law allows the woman to get indicted? What the hell is that about?
I studied (slept through) Classics at university, and Greek law shocked me awake by its law that a man should kill his wife and a man sleeping with her if he caught them in the act of adultery, or else get his estate confiscated because it couldn't be proved his sons were his, so the estate should not pass to them... is this a revival? Is there a campaign to help this woman? If so I will put my name to it because it's disgusting.

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[info]ginmar
2008-05-13 12:41 am UTC (link)
I know things have gone backward in the past eight years, coincidentally.

I'd love to help this woman. If you have any ideas, let me know.

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Of course he comes home
(Anonymous)
2008-06-16 01:50 am UTC (link)
Dear Cat,

Of course the husband comes home while playing poker at 11 pm--first how many poker games go very very late anyways, is 11 pm so late. Second he calls home and his child is alone while Mom is being "Raped" (Mom's words), so he needs to come home to find out why his child is alone. Maybe he was worried she was being raped, or maybe he thought she was sucking some dudes cock in the pick up. What we do know is that she said she was being raped. She could have said a hundred things, and it took a bit to get his gun, but instead of escaping the man stood around and maintained a threatning presence under the circumstance of the woman crying rape.

How many woman get men in jail every year for one word "Rape". Even in the Duke LaCrosse case that woman had cried rape many times and never went to jail. Women who cry rape need to be answerable for their lies, as police might have done the same her husband had done. What about the child, hearing Mommy cry rape--what was the husband's choice? I think your problem is you want the "Man" to be punished, and a man was punished by his own death from this whores lies.

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Wow, another MRA asshole who can't fucking read
[info]ginmar
2008-06-16 01:53 am UTC (link)
Read the article, you fucking moron.

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