ginmar ([info]ginmar) wrote,
@ 2007-11-08 15:11:00
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Entry tags:credibility, legitimacy, rule number three, trolls

Dear anoymous trolls:
*Rule number three:

You will be deleted if you don't have a name or a web page. It's that simple. I keep finding familiar IPs amongst the anonymous comments and if I feel the urge, I'll identify you and link to you so people can point and laugh. Them's the breaks. If, for example, you're some pathetic MRA troll who got banned years ago, you cannot avoid your fate of getting sniggered at. To quote a troll, you can't have it both ways. I do so love trolls. You cannot be anonymous and have legitimacy. Period.

So deal with it.

This obviously does not apply to people who have good reason to preserve their privacy. "Telling a terribly personal story" is not the same as "trying to get away with being a dickweed."


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[info]flewellyn
2007-11-08 09:20 pm UTC (link)
Butbutbut...free speech! You're stifling dissent! OMGWTFBBQSPQR!

*cough* Sorry, got something stuck in my throat.

Also, loving that I can edit comments now.

And that the anonytrolls can't edit theirs.

Edited at 2007-11-08 09:23 pm UTC

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[info]ginmar
2007-11-08 09:29 pm UTC (link)
They're getting deleted like flies. Dudes, would it kill them to try having an original thought? Also, how off putting is it when some dipshit just does not listen to me and keeps trying to outshout me? That doesn't prove anything at all.

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[info]stardragonca
2007-11-08 09:31 pm UTC (link)
They can't believe it isn't working. It's like they aren't important or something.

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[info]ginmar
2007-11-08 09:33 pm UTC (link)
Hee. And it's like they're manly men and they can't get what they want.

We have a commercial where a suburban dad throws a temper tantrum over a Subway sandwich, and that's what I thnk of when I see these trolls, especially the ones who are still besotted with me five years later.

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[info]stardragonca
2007-11-08 09:42 pm UTC (link)
You are that important. Heh.

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[info]ravenseer
2007-11-09 07:23 am UTC (link)
*me chokes on the word besotted*

...

I suppose its ... accurate...

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[info]flewellyn
2007-11-08 09:48 pm UTC (link)
It's the Bill O'Reilly school of debate. He's got a whole bunch of folks thinking that if you shout louder and longer than everybody else, you win. In reality, all that proves is that you can disgust your opponents to the point where they decide you're not worth the bother.

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[info]stardragonca
2007-11-08 09:55 pm UTC (link)
They fail to grasp the subtle yet crucial point that this only works if:
A)You hired the hall
B)Security can back you up.
What works on Faux-in real life,not so much.

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[info]flewellyn
2007-11-08 10:02 pm UTC (link)
Well, that's the thing. Increasingly, our citizens are unable to distinguish fantasy and theatre from reality. (Which, by the way, puts the lie to the "porn is fantasy, not reality!" trope yet again.)

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[info]jeric_synergy
2007-11-09 05:06 pm UTC (link)
I guess their hero's, Bill O'Leily, trick of switching off the microphone isn't so clever when it's applied to them.

Wussies.

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[info]jeric_synergy
2007-11-09 05:07 pm UTC (link)
Damn, flwewellyn beat me to it.

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[info]ginmar
2007-11-09 07:04 pm UTC (link)
Except BILO does that to people he disagrees with. These people are free to disagree. What they're not free to do is miss the point, be rude to me, waste my time, and change the subject. They all seem to regard those times as horrifying impositions.

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[info]ginmar
2007-11-08 09:29 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I just got another troll from lo these many years ago and I'm like...."Dude. Give it up already." No name, no webpage, they're gone.

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[info]stardragonca
2007-11-08 09:29 pm UTC (link)
OK,how do that?

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[info]ginmar
2007-11-08 09:35 pm UTC (link)
You have a paid account? If it's possible for you, you'll see a little pencil on the blue bar header of the comment.

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Oh,paid account thing
[info]stardragonca
2007-11-08 09:41 pm UTC (link)
Pay MONEY? *looks at you like a cat that's just been told to get off the table*
Besides,then I'd have to get a paid account for everyone.

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[info]pbrim
2007-11-08 10:07 pm UTC (link)
Also, you can only edit it if no one has replied yet. That way you can't post something inflamatory, get hostile responses, then replace it with something moderate and reasonable.

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[info]flewellyn
2007-11-08 10:15 pm UTC (link)
Boy, I wonder why LJ felt the need to restrict it in such a fashion?

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[info]diachrony
2007-11-09 02:35 am UTC (link)
It's the usual model. Lots of forum-style spaces have had comment editing for years now, and they generally restrict it both to a) before comments have been replied to and b) some specific time period, usually at least 15 minutes ... whichever comes first.

Only took LJ years and years and years to catch up. And then only for paid members. (I don't pay for membership at any forums ... and all that I visit have this feature for free, even if you have to be registered at the forum to use it. Hmm.)

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[info]danaseilhan
2007-11-09 03:11 am UTC (link)
But it's that much less money they have to take from advertisers, which in theory would mean they care that much more about their customers. Except I'm talking about Six Apart, so never mind.

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[info]snowmentality
2007-11-09 01:39 am UTC (link)
SPQR?

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[info]flewellyn
2007-11-09 02:23 am UTC (link)
Senatus Populusque Romanum, "The Senate and People of Rome". This initialism was engraved on various official Roman buildings, road markers, coins, even drainage gates in their sewers. I threw it in there because it amuses me.

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[info]snowmentality
2007-11-09 03:00 pm UTC (link)
BRILLIANT!

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Because it amuses me.
[info]stardragonca
2007-11-09 05:35 pm UTC (link)
Nullo metro compositum est.

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New toy?
[info]stardragonca
2007-11-08 09:25 pm UTC (link)
Let me see.

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Re: New toy?
[info]ginmar
2007-11-08 09:29 pm UTC (link)
What do you mean?

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Re: New toy?
[info]stardragonca
2007-11-08 09:33 pm UTC (link)
[info]flewellyn said:
"Also, loving that I can edit comments now."
How do this?

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Re: New toy?
[info]jeric_synergy
2007-11-09 05:08 pm UTC (link)
Pony up the dough, boy.

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[info]greeneyedkzin
2007-11-08 09:55 pm UTC (link)
And they say feminists don't have a sense of humor.

<^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^>

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[info]sajia
2007-11-08 10:35 pm UTC (link)
Is that keyboardese for "evil grin"? If not, it should be.

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[info]greeneyedkzin
2007-11-08 11:57 pm UTC (link)
Sajia, I made up that emoticon a good 17 years ago when I adopted the Net-name of Greeneyedkzin.

It is a kzin-grin.

I once gave Larry Niven a button of gold paper with 24 karats on it -- a solid gold grin.

<^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^>

He wore it with a green Regency coat.

Feel free to use it.

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you've met Larry Niven?
[info]klytaimnestra
2007-11-09 02:06 am UTC (link)
::faints::

I love Larry Niven's books. Except when he's writing with Jerry Pournelle. But anything he writes on his own. Nearly called my son "Beowulf" after Beowulf Schaeffer. (My husband put his foot down, the stick-in-the-mud.)

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Re: you've met Larry Niven?
[info]greeneyedkzin
2007-11-09 03:03 am UTC (link)
Your husband probably saved thousands of dollars in child psychiatry. Beowulf is kind of old-fashioned.

I know Larry. Know Jerry, too.

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Re: you've met Larry Niven?
[info]danaseilhan
2007-11-09 03:13 am UTC (link)
Hey, bring on the old-fashioned names. My daughter's name is Althea.

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Re: you've met Larry Niven?
[info]stardragonca
2007-11-09 05:05 am UTC (link)
I'm just grateful my mother got talked out of Ezekiel.

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Re: you've met Larry Niven?
[info]jackytar
2007-11-09 04:24 pm UTC (link)
Ditto. My favourites are still "Ringworld" and "Ringworld Engineer". For a while my moniker in the fleet was "Speaker-to-Electrons"...

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Niven: YMMV IMO DSfDF
[info]jeric_synergy
2007-11-09 05:12 pm UTC (link)
meh, Niven, IMO, has lost it: I don't know what he's trying to do, but his writing is no fun at all. It's like he's TRYING to make it as hard as possible to figure out the action, like the entire book is a puzzle.

"Dude (Niven), I pay YOU to TELL me the action."

And I used to be a HUGE fan. No more. {sobs}


Apply usually subjectivity disclaimers. >8^D

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[info]flewellyn
2007-11-09 02:24 am UTC (link)
That sounds hilarious! I'm glad he liked the gift.

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He wore it with a green Regency coat.
[info]stardragonca
2007-11-09 05:06 am UTC (link)
Excellent!

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Permission! Permission!
[info]stardragonca
2007-11-09 07:17 am UTC (link)
And I just now figured out that the number of teeth is variable.
<^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^>

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[info]angelwings01
2007-11-08 10:34 pm UTC (link)
It must get so old dealing with these assholes.
I cannot even imagine. My journal is full of silly things no one usually feels the urge to attack, I would probably rip all my hair out if I had to deal with these kids!!!

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[info]ginmar
2007-11-08 10:35 pm UTC (link)
What's scary is that some of them are in their forties.

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[info]tayefeth
2007-11-09 12:02 am UTC (link)
Pity we can't deny them the right to vote for being under the mental/emotional age of 18...

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[info]greeneyedkzin
2007-11-09 07:33 pm UTC (link)
I have a newsgroup elsewhere on the Net. It is 18 years old. It is the ONLY place I have seen civil discussions of women in the military and abortion -- and that's not because people haven't got strong opinions.

(It's because I kick ass and because the people there tend to be older, with strongly established lives -- a kind of Internet senior seminar. Great group.)

It's self-selecting: people who are made uncomfortable by occasional vehement arguments, bandwidth (not nearly as populous as here) and general toughmindedness tend to leave, usually with a noisy parting shot.

We all insist on respect. Trolls? We don't get them because we'd all go after them. You are very brave.

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[info]angelwings01
2007-11-12 07:12 pm UTC (link)
I guess mental maturity unfortunately does not always come with age.

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[info]journalfag
2007-11-09 06:34 am UTC (link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2alJObBYkdg

offtopic, but I thought you might need a laugh after dealing with trolls

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[info]ad_kay
2007-11-09 03:55 pm UTC (link)
Reminds me of the Zillas!

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[info]journalfag
2007-11-09 09:20 pm UTC (link)
yeah, they do that.

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