ginmar ([info]ginmar) wrote,
@ 2007-03-26 18:38:00
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Entry tags:anger, c4m, female perception, male perception

Anger is a sex change
I just had a troll call me a man and say I probably had a big dick. On a two-year-old post. Because there's no other reason to explain a woman getting angry with the sort of guy who says shit like this: Oh, WOW! You're just too good to be true. I bet if we were to yank up that skirt of yours... nine pounds of swingin' meat.

Yep, it's a dude.


Nine pounds?! Something tells me this dude has serious adequacy issues if he's so certain than an angry woman is really a male in disguise. Not only that, but a male with what appears to be elephantisis of the testicles. Which is supposed to be a compliment, I guess, because men of course get so honorably angry, while women just whine and manipulate and nag and be shrewish. There's a whole vocabulary of words that just never get used to apply to men unless some other guy is trying to feminize them because, you know, being female is bad and disgusting. Men want justice; women want revenge and payback and vigilante justice. Women are lying creatures who just want to entrap men. (This last surely falls under the 'unintentional endorsements that sexism is pervasive' because it acknowledges just how little power women have in the world---or at least, good traditional women who don't believe in honestly seizing power.)

Anger is one issue that reveals just how shallow peoples' attitudes are toward women, how retrograde their actual instincts are about women. A guy can say he believes in 'equal pay for equal work' all he wants but that doesn't take care of all the situations where women have been denied equal jobs in the first place. Angry women are always portrayed as getting revenge, not justice, and their motivations are never taken seriously. The trend got its most explicit example in Fatal Attraction, the perfect conservative male fantasy of being able to bitch slap a....bitch. Alex got used and dumped by family man Michael Douglas---who later played an extremely improbable victim of sexual harassment by a woman-----and finally executed by the Good Woman in the movie, the devoted wife. For all the rah rah rah yay family motif of the movie, Alex's pregnancy was ignored in the urge to get her character killed in the name of male retribution for every pregnancy scare. In fact, the pregnancy itself was another threat against innocent family man Michael Douglas, who after just innocently wanted to boink some slut while his wife was out of town or something. Alex herself acted like nothing so much as OJ Simpson, typical wife beater and wife-stalker, except her suicide attempt apparently was genuine. Let a woman get angry enough, goes the subtext, and she'll start acting like a man and making you into a bitch.

It was all her fault, anyway. She tempted him, dammit. She asked for it. She should have know she would just get dumped; after all, that's what happens to sluts. How dare a slut try and lay a claim on a guy who just wanted to boink? Didn't she know that her status and value was determined by MD's perceptions? Her anger at her treatment got the classic movie treatment womens' anger always gets; it gets viewed through mens' perceptions of womens' value, so that ultimately no woman has a right to get angry. Hubby cheats on you? You let yourself go. Hubbie beats you? You must have asked for it. Got raped? Asked for it. Got pregnant? Slut. Or gold digger. Womens' perceptions are completely silenced so that when they've finally had enough and get angery, their anger often explodes in the quiet vacuum created by mens' self-satisfaction.

This view lies behind the choice 4 men debate, which isn't so much a debate as it is a con job. With the viewpoint steadily pressured to represent only the male's, even issues of womens' lives become matters of bugging men or not. Somehow, while a woman having sex is considered to have consented to pregnancy and childbirth, a man who has sex is not likewise consenting to fatherhood and child support. Womens' anger at the male perception that they're the owners and shapers of women is never given voice, never reocgnized, and never acknowledged----at least not until some moron comes along, bristling with the bravery of anonymity, and accuses an angry woman of being a man. Unwittingly, he's just said you're usurping the male right to consider things only as they benefit yourself. He's threatened by it. If he can be judged by a woman, then where will it end?



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[info]mrsveteran
2007-03-27 12:22 am UTC (link)
Wha ... NINE POUNDS?

Dude.

That's not a dick.

That's an extra leg.

Quick, call Ripley's and the Guinness Book and the Weekly World News!

You could be rich!

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[info]mrsveteran
2007-03-27 12:22 am UTC (link)
P.S. STEP ON THAT BIG THING BEFORE IT GETS TO THE CHILDREN!!!

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[info]doryllis
2007-03-27 12:28 am UTC (link)
Don't worry. It's Kielbasa and she'll be leaving it out for the neighborhood cats to mutilate....

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(no subject) - [info]stardragonca, 2007-03-27 02:50 pm UTC (Expand)
rationality
(Anonymous)
2007-03-27 12:49 am UTC (link)
Anger is generally a very rational emotion. Sometimes it may appear as irrational, if the person's understanding of their actual power-position in the world isn't clear. Yet, even then it points to the real state of a person's situation, rationally.Those who look on but cannot see this are putting themselves at a disadvantageous position, as individuals. They are irrationalists.

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[info]ginamariewade
2007-03-27 01:00 am UTC (link)
Well, if you really were a man with "nine pounds of swingin meat," your money woes would be over. Think of the porn career you could have. People would line up just to see it.

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[info]jeric_synergy
2007-03-27 03:55 pm UTC (link)
Hell, I'd pay NOT to see it.

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thatdana
2007-03-27 01:03 am UTC (link)
What century's this guy in, anyway? Who says you're wearing a skirt? Why's it gotta be a skirt? I can't remember the last damn time I wore a skirt. *checks* Nope, no swingin' meat here.

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[info]ginmar
2007-03-27 01:49 am UTC (link)
Nor, I suspect, for him, either.

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(no subject) - [info]ciardhapagan, 2007-03-27 04:29 am UTC (Expand)
Snicker! - [info]johniebgoodin, 2007-03-27 04:03 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]abtxclancy
2007-03-27 02:40 am UTC (link)
i must confess to not reading this whole entry but i still want to say this: in my (perhaps not-so-humble) opinion, measuring my manliness by my (i hope)big heart is much more accurate than measuring my manliness by my (certainly) little willie. anger is anger. the reproductive system of the angry subject has extremely questionable relevance.

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[info]demonista
2007-03-29 03:29 am UTC (link)
Awwww...i like your take. I agree.

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thatdana
2007-03-27 03:44 am UTC (link)
Oh, and I should ask. Just... out of suspicion. This dude wouldn't happen to be a distant relative of a certain Muppet chef, would he?

I doubt it, but just in case... Yet another reason to laugh at him. (I'll explain later.)

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*snerk*
[info]nimbrethil
2007-03-27 03:50 am UTC (link)
......

thanks.

I nearly choked. Finding me dead the next morning, slumped over my laptop...that would've been a sight for someone.

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Re: *snerk* - thatdana, 2007-03-27 02:35 pm UTC (Expand)
Can't get that image out of my head
[info]nimbrethil
2007-03-27 07:37 am UTC (link)
Nine pounds of swingin' meat.

Couple that with the word "elephantisis" and, based on the pic of you several posts back, dress and all, I've got this image of you trying to walk with a nine-pound dick swinging back and forth like an elephant's trunk.

Either that or a dick that swings to musical rhythm.

(Gimme a break! There's a lot of penis-as-pet humor on the web and I've read most of it).

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ffuck's sake...
[info]christina_n
2007-03-27 01:05 pm UTC (link)
Shit, the immaturity of it...
As ever, the female personality spectrum is thought of as a dumping ground for universally unwanted traits. And anger is not one of them unwanted traits. It's anyone's guess who gets to decide.

Slightly irrelevant note: it makes me wonder. Reportedly, most heavy machinery in Russia is handled by women because men just can't be trusted staying sober. Does this cause soberness and professionalism to be dubbed feminine unwanted traits? I bet it's pick and choose once more).

christina

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Re: ffuck's sake...
[info]johniebgoodin
2007-03-27 03:01 pm UTC (link)
Christina,

What is the series/ film your header shows: Professor kisses Michael Palin? And, in Facts None of Us Need To Know, Ben & Jerry's has a new Python flavor: coffee liqueur, cookie crumbs, and chunk milk chocolate; not bad, but nothing will ever replace White Russian. They sent me the recipe for WR with an apology when they quit making it, but I can no longer find it.

Python Phan

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Re: ffuck's sake... - (Anonymous), 2007-03-27 03:36 pm UTC (Expand)
Re: ffuck's sake... - [info]johniebgoodin, 2007-03-27 04:01 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]greeneyedkzin
2007-03-27 01:30 pm UTC (link)
I keep thinking of Giles' "don't taunt the fear-demon."

There are times when laughter really IS the best medicine.

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(Anonymous)
2007-03-27 02:08 pm UTC (link)
Completely not related to the post, but if you haven't seen Flags of Our Fathers, I think you'd like it a lot.

~Godless Heathen

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[info]stardragonca
2007-03-27 02:54 pm UTC (link)
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it." Voltaire

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[info]stardragonca
2007-03-27 07:09 pm UTC (link)
I love how this Pathetic Dweeb feels entitled to know what is "under your skirt" and feels he has a right to inspect it.
And by love I mean wish to immolate.

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[info]journalfag
2007-03-27 07:30 pm UTC (link)
Lamest Troll Ever

Seriously, there should be an award for being that unorginal and dumb.

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[info]terminalmalaise
2007-03-27 09:03 pm UTC (link)
This may be of interest. Tech blogger Kathy Sierra had death threats to her posted on her blog, resulting in her cancelling a conference appearance.

This has sparked a lot of commentary...one of the better bits is this:

The sad thing about all of this is that it took this long for so much of the blogosphere to be talking about cyberbullying. Apart from the education community, you don’t often hear bloggers condemning the practice. In fact, if you were to judge the Internet purely on the discourse that takes place on certain political blogs and social news sites, you might be excused if you drew the conclusion that we’re just a bunch of cruel barbarians.

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(no subject) - [info]ginmar, 2007-03-27 11:04 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]adelheide
2007-03-27 09:26 pm UTC (link)
Aside from my Stupid Tax law (which I think is a damn good idea), we need to have a Tattoo Your Stupidity law. If you are going to go around, saying things that monumentally moronic, the rest of society gets to tattoo the words, "Dickless Wonder" on your forehead. We have to live with the stupid, but hopefully we can prevent others from suffering our fate.

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[info]kragen
2007-03-29 03:28 am UTC (link)
Well said.

(You don't know me, but my wife (paisleychick) read one of your blog posts on NPR.)

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(no subject) - [info]ginmar, 2007-03-29 12:44 pm UTC (Expand)
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[info]demonista
2007-03-29 03:33 am UTC (link)
There seems to be a pattern with stupidus maleuses. They feel the need to correlate toughness, smartness, sexual prowess or happiness, etc. with, primarily, maleness, and secondarily, with penis and testicles size. Hence people saying that people who demonstrate perceived and/or actual courage as "having balls."

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Re: Immaturity and Insults - [info]ginmar, 2008-01-20 02:33 am UTC (Expand)

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